Opposing Christianity.
#61
July 27, 13:12
Yes, but you can't ignore the fact that christianity is jewisch and the problems of the bad society we live in now started with christianity taking over in our countries.
Tyrannies teach what to think; free men learn how to think.
#62
July 27, 14:06
God cast the kazars out of the temple kazars being Jews and exclaimed you are not of the twelve tribes of Israel, now yes Christianity has been I.fultrated by Jews but in that case so has the skinhead movement look at how our people act not noble at all alcohol is a Jewish made thing and a lot of nationalist drink do you think the true nords were alcoholics? Or how about the lack of nobility inside the movement? Girls and guys acting like whores lack of commitment dishonesty are these noble traits of an aryan? How many so called odinist don't know there own holy book? Or there virtues?
#63
July 27, 15:51
I don't believe christianity is infiltrated by jews, I believe it was created by jews. Why else would the 'christian bible' contain the TNCH? And why else would the name of the christian god by exactly the same as the jewisch god, YHWH? Why else was the bible writtin in Hebrew? The jewisch ten commands and so on and so further...
Also I know there are a lot of bad influences in the nationalistic (not only "nazi skinhead") movement that should be taken care of. The "nazi skinhead" movement is indeed the worst because that's the recognized lifestyle of a skinhead, drinking and fighting. I have no problem with having fun, but there's got to be drawn a line. (By the way, yes there were most likely drunks among our ancestors aldo most likely not as much as now.)
Yes I have met a few so called Odinists who know nothing about Germanic and Nordic mythology. I even know/knew a guy who has Mjölnir tattooed on his arm and is now going to tattoo a crusader, or people that don't know what the Edda is and so on. I find it sad that such people walk on this planet aldo some of them still can be educated.
It are all problems that should be taken care of if we want a future where the white race can survive without being threatened by foreighn influences within our blood and culture.
Also I know there are a lot of bad influences in the nationalistic (not only "nazi skinhead") movement that should be taken care of. The "nazi skinhead" movement is indeed the worst because that's the recognized lifestyle of a skinhead, drinking and fighting. I have no problem with having fun, but there's got to be drawn a line. (By the way, yes there were most likely drunks among our ancestors aldo most likely not as much as now.)
Yes I have met a few so called Odinists who know nothing about Germanic and Nordic mythology. I even know/knew a guy who has Mjölnir tattooed on his arm and is now going to tattoo a crusader, or people that don't know what the Edda is and so on. I find it sad that such people walk on this planet aldo some of them still can be educated.
It are all problems that should be taken care of if we want a future where the white race can survive without being threatened by foreighn influences within our blood and culture.
Tyrannies teach what to think; free men learn how to think.
#64
July 27, 19:17
jews speak yidish not hebrew and read out of the talamud or refered to as the book of the elders not the bible, jews were reffered to as kazars and edomites by yahweh and jews also do not believe in him.. they were greedy men and of another tribe (race) not of israel. with all do respect its counterproductive to alienate white who fight the same battle do to a difference in gods? and do not odinist have many gods? could yahweh be one of the many aryan gods?
#65
July 27, 20:26
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Maybe he can't read that good? He does ignore my reaction (and others) to this discussion so it's not unlikely. And also in stead of reasoning and do any research to bring up some facts he just keeps on going praising christianity as if it was the greatest thing that ever happend to our people. Or he's a creationist.
Originally posted by: Flandris
Maybe he can't read that good? He does ignore my reaction (and others) to this discussion so it's not unlikely. And also in stead of reasoning and do any research to bring up some facts he just keeps on going praising christianity as if it was the greatest thing that ever happend to our people. Or he's a creationist.
To answer your question, I read very good. Good enough that I have read the Bible and other Christian historical texts and understand there meanings. Then to answer your next two sentences. I ignore your reaction, because there was nothing in your reply but your opinion. No facts just opinion. As to praising Christanity, Yes indeed. If you mean True Christanity and not Judeo- Christanity which is a false modern hybrid religion.
#66
July 29, 12:18
Hebrew is one of the languages jews speak and is considered to be a semetic language. Not al jews speak one language. Yiddisch is also writting in the Hebrew writing/script/writ (don't know which word is the right one). And gues also in what language the Mishnah is writtin. I also did not said the (christian) bible is the book jews refur to. I said the TNCH is jewisch, the jewisch bible. And the talmud is only the second most important book, after the TNCH. And if I remember correct jews probably wrote the new testament as well. At least it's also writtin in Hebrew. The ("christian") bible is only a collection of stories writtin over a thousand years by several people (among them, or all jews).
@ Dan Nich: Were those last two questions in your response serieus questions? I guess/hope not.
@ Southern Knight: What is not a fact but only an opinion (except for 'I don't believe christianity is infiltrated by jews, I believe it was created by jews' which is based on the facts I gave here) if I may ask?
Maybe disliking (to stay friendly) christianity and standing up for it is "counterproductive" because a lot of people are christians. But is it therefore right to just allow some false religion to destroy our own culture, our true heritage? Is it therefore right to ignore the fact that they killed thousands of our ancestors who remained faithful to the heritage of their ancestors? Counterproductive or not, I stay true to our own culture, our own heritage, to what our ancestors fought and died for! Again, just look what christianity has done to us in the past and look at the present consequences of it.
And it's not my intention to "start a fight" here between christians vs people who follow a Germanic/Nordic or other white religions and non-believers. I just put down some withheld facts about christianity that christians and others should know.
@ Dan Nich: Were those last two questions in your response serieus questions? I guess/hope not.
@ Southern Knight: What is not a fact but only an opinion (except for 'I don't believe christianity is infiltrated by jews, I believe it was created by jews' which is based on the facts I gave here) if I may ask?
Maybe disliking (to stay friendly) christianity and standing up for it is "counterproductive" because a lot of people are christians. But is it therefore right to just allow some false religion to destroy our own culture, our true heritage? Is it therefore right to ignore the fact that they killed thousands of our ancestors who remained faithful to the heritage of their ancestors? Counterproductive or not, I stay true to our own culture, our own heritage, to what our ancestors fought and died for! Again, just look what christianity has done to us in the past and look at the present consequences of it.
And it's not my intention to "start a fight" here between christians vs people who follow a Germanic/Nordic or other white religions and non-believers. I just put down some withheld facts about christianity that christians and others should know.
Tyrannies teach what to think; free men learn how to think.
#69
July 29, 17:40
To say it again: It's not my intention to "start a fight" here between christians vs people who follow a Germanic/Nordic or other white religions and non-believers. I just don't want my folk to fight for a culture that isn't ours! I don't wan't to see my folk fighting for something created by the folk we are fighting against. I fight not only for blood, I fight not only for honor, I fight not only for heritage ... I fight for blood and honor and heritage!
Tyrannies teach what to think; free men learn how to think.
#70
July 29, 23:26
Ok ill repeat myself then yahweh cast the Jew out of his temple saying u are not of the twelve tribes of Abraham the true Israelites. Yahweh spoke down on the Jews and Jewish have nothin to do with CI and or non judeo Christians so why is that so hard to stomach? And what makes your gods more believable? Infact after nearly a decade I still haven't gotten an idea of what you worship and I only understand noble 9 seems like mysticism and dragon slaying! There is very little literature on odinism or knowledgeable so called odinist heathens etc..
#72
July 31, 21:27
YHWH said nothing because he doesn't excist. But that's another story. Also, isn't that a quote from the bible?
I'm not a follower of Odinism or any other Germanic/Nordic religion. I believe in what can be senced and what is logic. Aldo I don't follow any religion I have no problem with it, as long as it's not a religion from another culture or one that is false. I do have a problem with religions that caused and still causes great danger to my race and culture, such as among other (but definitely not only) christianity. And what makes Germanic/Nordic religions more believable? Well, if there's one thing that would make a little more believable is that they are nature (or earth as I see above) religions. If there would be (a) god(s) it would be more believable that they are nature (or is it also earth in English?) gods rather than one god for everything in the entire universe.
If there's one book I can definitely recommend you to reed it's the Edda. It consists of two parts: first the poetic Edda which is a collection of songs or poems in the Old Norse language, and second the proza-Edda which contains mythological stories from between the 9th and the 12th century. Of this part you can learn much about Nordic gods and their stories and other legends. You can also learn about the Nordic cosmogony of the universe. You can find the Edda trasnlated. There's much about Nordic mythology you can learn from the stories in the Edda. There's also a lot that you can find of Germanic and Nordic mythology on the internet if you look around.
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"so can any of you explain besides being the religion of our ancestors what is the backing to our ancestrial religion?"
Not sure what your question is and translated to my language it doesn't make any sence. But by the reaction of 'Bad Kitty' I guess it was the history you asked for.
I'm not a follower of Odinism or any other Germanic/Nordic religion. I believe in what can be senced and what is logic. Aldo I don't follow any religion I have no problem with it, as long as it's not a religion from another culture or one that is false. I do have a problem with religions that caused and still causes great danger to my race and culture, such as among other (but definitely not only) christianity. And what makes Germanic/Nordic religions more believable? Well, if there's one thing that would make a little more believable is that they are nature (or earth as I see above) religions. If there would be (a) god(s) it would be more believable that they are nature (or is it also earth in English?) gods rather than one god for everything in the entire universe.
If there's one book I can definitely recommend you to reed it's the Edda. It consists of two parts: first the poetic Edda which is a collection of songs or poems in the Old Norse language, and second the proza-Edda which contains mythological stories from between the 9th and the 12th century. Of this part you can learn much about Nordic gods and their stories and other legends. You can also learn about the Nordic cosmogony of the universe. You can find the Edda trasnlated. There's much about Nordic mythology you can learn from the stories in the Edda. There's also a lot that you can find of Germanic and Nordic mythology on the internet if you look around.
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"so can any of you explain besides being the religion of our ancestors what is the backing to our ancestrial religion?"
Not sure what your question is and translated to my language it doesn't make any sence. But by the reaction of 'Bad Kitty' I guess it was the history you asked for.
Tyrannies teach what to think; free men learn how to think.
#73
July 31, 21:52
thanks bad kitty i have a friend from the odinic right that has often said god is a prophet(Maybe out of respect ) and i also do not believe everything i read hear and do not see but that is where faith comes in... sorta the reason i hang around the white nationalist scene and have for a long time! I have faith we will reclaim the world once again! there are bible scriptures that point to this time in our lives! I could say jews created odinism and infiltraited cristianity to cause us to fight and sympothize the proof is here in this thread! I personally think that i should never date outside my faith which is easy to do and christian identity makes sense to alot of white women i have explained it to and is a gate way to nationalism! would hard core "opposers" to christianity be so biast? and if u really tried to explain jesus hating and ancestrial religion to your average white man or women would it make sense? i think not! i have been around for a long time and i have a basic sense i guess and i am somewhat open minded and folkish
#75
August 1, 01:46
HERE IS A REPLY FROM AN ODINIST WANTING TO JOIN THE KLANs of america if we accept odinist? IT IS ANSWERED PERFECTLY NOT BY ME BUT THE IMPERIAL WIZARD FROM THE UNITED KLANS OF AMERICA.....
We believe that all Aryans should be allowed to worship any Aryan religion they choose. When we start dividing our people it goes against the 14 WORDS. Why would we want to let something as petty as a choice of religions destroy our Race? Did our Forefathers not come to this country for Freedom? I do believe that Religion was one of those. The Klan was founded on Christian Ideals yes it was but we have come to a new Era the 6th Era. So the best thing to do is focus on our GOAL the 14 WORDS and worship your own Folkish Way and we will see our Race prevail. Keep letting people divide us along Religion and Political lines and we will see our Race destroyed. It is up to us to decided OUR FATE! As for me I choose to live the Aryan way and live separately from other races as much as possible. UNITED WE STAND....DIVIDED WE FALL! Those that are doing the dividing are going to be considered enemies of the Aryan state. We CI are not jew lovers!!! BTW llewalyn publications a odinist book source is jewish run does this mean y"all got a woodchuck in the pile? lol
We believe that all Aryans should be allowed to worship any Aryan religion they choose. When we start dividing our people it goes against the 14 WORDS. Why would we want to let something as petty as a choice of religions destroy our Race? Did our Forefathers not come to this country for Freedom? I do believe that Religion was one of those. The Klan was founded on Christian Ideals yes it was but we have come to a new Era the 6th Era. So the best thing to do is focus on our GOAL the 14 WORDS and worship your own Folkish Way and we will see our Race prevail. Keep letting people divide us along Religion and Political lines and we will see our Race destroyed. It is up to us to decided OUR FATE! As for me I choose to live the Aryan way and live separately from other races as much as possible. UNITED WE STAND....DIVIDED WE FALL! Those that are doing the dividing are going to be considered enemies of the Aryan state. We CI are not jew lovers!!! BTW llewalyn publications a odinist book source is jewish run does this mean y"all got a woodchuck in the pile? lol
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